fix: choose the catalog access path by size, and assert the work (#1207) - #1213
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Reviewed 186255e by building both sides and running them. You asked for three
things; here are all three, and the first one is now constructed rather than
argued.
1. The order-divergence case you wanted, and it comes back clean
You changed the order rows are read in three list-building paths and argued
order-independence per site. I built the case where index order and heap order
actually diverge, and compared main against this branch under it.
The first attempt was vacuous and its own premise line caught it. A churn
workload with compact() left pgcolumnar.free_space holding exactly one
row, so heap order and index order were trivially equal and the comparison
could not have detected anything. Printed premise: rows whose heap order != index order: 0.
Using your own suite's recipe — retire alternate groups so freed ranges are
separated by live ones and cannot coalesce — the fixture does express the
question:
pass 0: free_space rows=20, heap order != index order for 0 rows
pass 1: free_space rows=40, heap order != index order for 38 rows
pass 2: free_space rows=42, heap order != index order for 38 rows
identical on both builds. Under that divergence, across three retire/churn
passes:
main rows=13002 md5=a5fe0d8589c3e7cf94de61bd75c7051c
186255e rows=13002 md5=a5fe0d8589c3e7cf94de61bd75c7051c
and pgcolumnar.free_space and pgcolumnar.row_group agree exactly — every
row, every offset, every length. So the read-order change is demonstrated
order-independent on a fixture where the two orders genuinely differ, which is
stronger than the suites plus the argument.
One note on record_free_space while I was there: the order-independence there
rests on "the file is already maximally coalesced, so at most one left and one
right neighbour". That is what makes if (nMerge < 2) safe — with three matches
len would absorb all three while only two rows were deleted, leaving a
double-counted extent. The premise holds because file_offset is unique and
overlap is forbidden, but the thing forbidding overlap is
PgColumnarCheckFreeSpaceNoOverlap, which is assert-only. Worth knowing that the
cap's safety and the assert-only checker are the same argument.
2. Making the assert-only asymmetry visible at measurement time
You asked for this specifically. debug_assertions is a readable GUC:
SHOW debug_assertions -> off (release build)
So a probe can read it at the moment it measures and refuse to report a path
"fully clean" from a release build, instead of discovering at test time that two
sites were never reachable. That turns your release-build zero from a clean
answer into a declared-incomplete one, which is the distinction that cost you the
two PgColumnarCheckFreeSpaceNoOverlap sites.
3. The flush-before-reset — reproduced, quantified, and it is worse than a flake
Independently reproduced on one connection, PG 18, reading exactly as a test
would (reset, measured operation, flush, read), summed over the pgcolumnar
catalogs:
flush before reset = no readings (seq, idx) = (65,195) (51,195) (51,195) (51,195) (51,195)
flush before reset = yes readings (seq, idx) = (0,94) (0,94) (0,94) (0,94) (0,94)
So it is not only 15 stray scans: 51 to 65 spurious seq_scan and about 101
spurious idx_scan, and the seq value is not even stable across identical reps
— 65 once, 51 four times. An arm asserting seq_scan = 0 would fail, and fail
inconsistently.
And your question about test_catalog_plan_index.py has an answer: it is safe
for a reason, but a fragile one. Its pre-reset writes are INSERT only. I ran
the same probe with INSERT-shaped writes and got 0 of 8 nonzero; the leak
above needs a DELETE. So the merged test passes because of which write shape
its fixture happens to use, not because the pattern is sound. Add a DELETE or a
compact() to that fixture and it breaks — and it would break as a spurious
red attributed to the code under test.
I would add the flush there too rather than leave it resting on that.
Everything else I checked
Nine converted sites; every key a prefix of an index that already exists, so no
catalog migration — confirmed against pgcolumnar--1.0-alpha5.sql. Both builds
fingerprinted and different (951ff067 main, 285926fb this branch), so the two
arms measured two binaries.
Approving once the gate finishes; it is at 13 pass / 2 pending as I write.
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on |
/usr/local/pg18_assert |
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/usr/local/pg18_nc |
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Both suites run green on both kinds, printing the right value each time.
Printed, not asserted, and that is deliberate. The suggestion would support
an arm, but in a suite this value records the condition the run happened in,
so no mutation of the code under test can move it — a check that cannot fail.
The failure it addresses is at measurement time: the probe run that closed the
account for this issue was on a release build and reported the compaction path
fully clean while the assert-enabled suite still showed a scan on each of two
catalogs. Nothing said which build it was, so the zero read as an answer rather
than a partial one. Provenance in the log fixes that. If the refusal belongs
anywhere it is in the probe tooling, which is a different change.
record_free_space: the cap and the assert-only checker are one argument
The comment argued order-independence and stopped. It now says what that rests
on: nMerge < 2 never binds, and it never binds only because there is at most
one left and one right neighbour. With three matches len would absorb all
three while only two rows were deleted, leaving a double-counted extent. The
invariant making three impossible — file_offset unique, no overlap — is
enforced by PgColumnarCheckFreeSpaceNoOverlap, which is assert-only.
So the cap's safety and that checker are one argument rather than two
independent ones, and a release build carries the invariant without checking it.
The invariant does hold; it is the independence that does not. Credited in the
comment.
On the order-divergence case
The half worth recording is that the first attempt was vacuous and its own
premise line caught it — a compact()-heavy workload left free_space
holding exactly one row, so heap order and index order were trivially equal and
the arm would have passed while proving nothing. rows=40 with 38 out of order,
identical row for row against main, is a demonstration; what I shipped was an
argument.
Correcting my own review:
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HOLD THIS MERGE — I have a measurement that may make it a net lossDo not approve or merge until this resolves. I found it while measuring #1211
This PR calls that helper five times per retired group — once per catalog I am measuring it now. If it is a net loss the remedy is almost certainly to It also lands on #1198, which I merged+37 planning buffers on main, at 10 and at 100 columnar tables. #1198's I have not yet found the crossover, and it may well be a clear win at the sizes That one is on me: I rebuilt that branch, dismissed the blocking review, and |
Measured: this is a large win above ~120 columnar tables and a fixed cost below itCorrecting myself. My hold said "this may be a net loss"; my first run measured
Main grows; this branch is flat. 523 -> 1845 against 663 -> 716. At 1000 Crossover is around 120 other columnar tables. Main's slope between 50 and The fixed cost is real and it is not the index probe+140 buffers on 20 retired groups is exactly 7 lookups per group at about 1 The codebase already profiled this and I walked past it. The #445 comment in So the fixed +140 is removable, and removing it would make this a win at every What I got wrong, twice, in one measurement
What I am asking forThis is a real trade-off and it is the reviewer's call, not mine:
I lean to the second, because a change that is a regression for a The PR body's performance claim is being rewritten either way; it currently |
There is a version that beats both, and this PR's tests would refuse itTwo findings. The second is about my own suite and it is the one that matters. 1. Choose the access path by catalog size, and it wins everywhereAn index probe costs more than scanning a one-page catalog, and less than static Oid
pgcolumnar_scan_index_oid(Relation rel, const char *name)
{
if (RelationGetNumberOfBlocks(rel) < PGCOLUMNAR_INDEX_MIN_BLOCKS)
return InvalidOid;
return pgcolumnar_index_oid(name);
}Routing all nine converted sites through it, clean build, same fixture as
Strictly better than both at every size measured. Better than main even at So this is not a trade-off to be judged. It is a bug with a fix. 2. My suite asserts the mechanism, not the work — and fails the better buildRunning The same 13 arms that the removal proof reddens. My suite cannot tell That is the identical error to the one this PR's measurement already made, one It is also a guard that fires on correct code, which my own notes say is the What I am doingNot pushing the size-aware version into this PR tonight. It needs:
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Plan: an oracle that asserts the work, and accepts any implementation that does itThe blocker on this PR is that its arms pin the mechanism ( The invariant actually worth protectingRetiring a group must not cost more because other columnar tables exist. Measured as
It discriminates and it accepts both correct implementations. A bound of, Stability, three reps on Identical. The worry that a buffer count is too noisy to assert on does not hold A second arm, because growth alone is not enoughGrowth would accept an implementation that is uniformly expensive. So also Together: must not grow with unrelated tables, and must not cost more than Premises these arms still needUnchanged in spirit from what is already here, since an arm expecting a small
That last one is new and it is the one this experiment would have needed most: OpenThe threshold. 300 is a gap I can see in a table, not a number I have derived. ScopeThis is a rewrite of the suite, both harnesses, and it is the thing blocking |
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PgColumnarGetSortedInfo and PgColumnarCheckNativeFormatVersion key on
storage_id and both passed InvalidOid, so both swept pgcolumnar.storage
sequentially on the one column storage_pkey is a UNIQUE btree over.
PgColumnarGetSortedInfo planning, via pgcolumnar_sorted_pathkeys
PgColumnarCheckNativeFormatVersion execution, once per relation scanned
Unlike commandprompt#1210 nothing has to be built and no decision about commandprompt#1211 is involved:
the index exists and the key is exact.
unfixed count(*) idx=0 seq=1 join idx=0 seq=5 8 passed + 2 failed
fixed count(*) idx=1 seq=0 join idx=4 seq=1 10 passed + 0 failed
The four converted are GetSortedInfo twice at planning and
CheckNativeFormatVersion twice at execution. THE RESIDUE IS
pgcolumnar_written_stripe_row_limit, ONCE PER COLUMNAR RELATION THAT REACHES IT
(commandprompt#1210, commandprompt#1211), which keys on relation_oid and has no index to name. One here
because this query's qual is on one side of the join only; @OffgridwithJD
measures two where both sides reach it. `seq` becoming 1 is a property of the
query, not of the change.
Which is why the join arm asserts idx_scan >= 2 rather than seq_scan == 0.
Asserting zero would fail for a defect this change does not fix, and asserting
one would pin a number commandprompt#1210 is expected to move.
The two shapes are separate arms because they reach different code. A no-qual
count never reaches the row-group-limit lookup, so its only storage access is
the format-version one.
FOUND BY TWO INSTRUMENTS DISAGREEING AND BOTH BEING RIGHT. An elog inside
pgcolumnar_written_stripe_row_limit counted 2 scans for a join; seq_scan on the
catalog counted 4. An elog at one function counts arrivals at that function; a
counter on the relation counts scans from any caller. The gap was the second
reader. A first hypothesis -- that a projection was present in one fixture and
not the other -- was driven with the projection count printed as a premise and
died: four calls with zero projections.
Both harnesses, ten checks each, identical assertion names. The pytest twin got
its own removal proof rather than inheriting the shell one, because the twins'
regimes diverge: it aborts at its first failure where the shell suite runs on,
reporting 8 checks against 10.
Majors from five runs against DEFAULT_CONFIGS: rc=0, 10 passed + 0 failed on
pg15, pg16, pg17, pgsql and pg19.
Census: 1519 -> 1521 by counting, 1606 rows, 85 not never, 1521 + 85 == 1606.
suites_not_covered does not move; catalog_plan_index is already covered.
PgColumnarSetSortedExtent has the same shape on the same key and is NOT included:
it is a write path holding RowExclusiveLock, nothing has measured its cost or
frequency, and the InvalidOid sweep of this file belongs to commandprompt#1207/commandprompt#1213.
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delete_group_rows() opens its catalog from a `const char *tableName`
PARAMETER, and PgColumnarDeleteGroupMetadata calls it five times. One
systable_beginscan in the source was five sequential scans per retired group
at run time, each walking every other columnar table's rows.
Two audits of these scans missed it, including my own. Both attributed a scan
to a catalog by reading the open_columnar_table("<name>") that produced its
relation handle; a relation that arrives as an argument has no name at the
call site. What found it was probing all 44 systable_beginscan sites and
requiring sum(probes that ran with InvalidOid) == sum(seq_scan over every
pgcolumnar catalog). The six-site enumeration failed that at 41 counted
against 22 probed.
Nine sites now pass an index oid. Every key was already a prefix of an index
that exists, so no catalog migration.
Measured, 40 groups with 20 retired, counters reset immediately before
compact(). seq_scan before -> after: bloom 20->0, column_chunk 20->0,
delete_vector 20->0, zone_map 20->0, free_space 22->0, row_group 43->0. The
path cost 7 x (retired groups) + 3 and now costs none of them; the
reconciliation is exact at 5, 10, 20 and 40 groups.
Two of the nine are in PgColumnarCheckFreeSpaceNoOverlap, which is
assert-only, so a measurement on a release build reports zero there while
every assert-enabled CI leg pays two per maintenance operation.
Both harnesses, independent: catalog_delete_index.sh (21 checks) and
test_catalog_delete_index.py (22). Restoring InvalidOid on all nine reddens 13
of the shell suite's 21; the 8 survivors are the 7 premises and
delete_vector's index arm, which passes beforehand. Ledger verdicts are
transcribed from that run. Suite measured green on PG 15, 16, 17, 18 (assert
and non-assert) and 19.
REBUILT ON MAIN CARRYING #1198, which also edits columnar_metadata.c. The two
sets of sites are disjoint and git merged that file silently, so it was
checked by counting on the composed tree -- 9 converted sites from this change
and 7 from #1198 -- and by running #1198's own suite here, 6/6.
Census re-derived on this tree, never by arithmetic: cluster_tests 477 -> 479
by collection, checks_never_observed_red 1508 -> 1516 by counting,
suites_not_covered unchanged. TESTS.md takes 81; #1198 took 80.
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Two of the nine converted sites are in PgColumnarCheckFreeSpaceNoOverlap, which is assert-only. On a release build they do not execute, so every arm is a weaker claim there: it says nothing about those two sites rather than clearing them. That cost real time. The probe run that closed the account for #1207 was on a release build and reported the compaction path FULLY CLEAN while the assert-enabled suite still showed one sequential scan on each of two catalogs. Nothing in the measurement said which build it was, so the zero read as an answer rather than a partial one. Both harnesses now print `SHOW debug_assertions`. Verified to discriminate before being relied on: `on` under /usr/local/pg17 and /usr/local/pg18_assert, `off` under /usr/local/pg18_nc. Suggested by @OffgridwithJD. PRINTED, NOT ASSERTED. It records the condition the run happened in, so breaking the code under test cannot change it and no removal proof can reach it. The failure it addresses is at measurement time, not at test time, so an arm here would be one that cannot fail. Check counts are unchanged at 21 and 22, so no ledger or census movement. Also, from @OffgridwithJD's review: record_free_space's order-independence argument rests on `nMerge < 2` never binding, which holds only because there is at most one left and one right neighbour. The invariant making three impossible is enforced by PgColumnarCheckFreeSpaceNoOverlap -- assert-only. So the cap's safety and that checker are one argument, not two independent ones. The invariant does hold; it is the independence that does not. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01XiFn3HteTXnGdRiA2xDP2n
harness_selftest refused: "the suite list is sorted in C order, so two new
suites land in different places". I inserted the new suite relative to
catalog_plan_index without looking at the whole neighbourhood, and
catalog_natts sorts between them:
catalog_natts catalog_delete_index
catalog_delete_index -> catalog_natts
catalog_plan_index catalog_plan_index
Verified by running the selftest that caught it rather than by re-reading the
list: the sort arm passes, and the 20 remaining failures are the documented
tree-copied-without-.git false reds ("no-repo", "the source tree is a git
checkout: got [no]"), not this change.
The COMPLETE list in test_compare_to_bash.py was already in its right place:
43 entries, zero out-of-order pairs.
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REBASED ONTO 54acb19, and this commit carries the conflict resolution the
rebase forced in test/pytest/expected_tests.txt, which the subject above does
not name. Saying so here because a commit whose file list exceeds its message is
how a derived number travels unreviewed.
This branch left cluster_tests as PLACEHOLDER deliberately, so the rebase had to
supply it. Derived by COLLECTION on the composed tree, never by adding one to a
number from another tree:
main 54acb19 guard=403 cluster=478 (51 cluster files)
this tree guard=403 cluster=480 (52 cluster files)
480 is neither 479 nor 478 plus anything. This file's own comment already records
that the branch has carried 1514, 1516 and 1508 and that none survived a rebase;
this is the fourth instance and the reason the file conflicts rather than merges.
Rebase by @OffgridwithJD, who could not force-push this branch and published it
rather than routing around the boundary. Verified independently before it was
applied: three commits with identical subjects and file lists but for this one;
ledger 1623 rows, 1542 never, 1542 + 81 == 1623, 0 keys lost from either side, 0
duplicates, catalog_delete_index 21 and capability_sweep 13 both intact; and both
counts re-derived by collection, 403 guard and 480 cluster over 52 files.
A first attempt to confirm 480 read "441 tests collected, 12 errors" and was not
a measurement: the venv lacked psycopg, so twelve files never imported. 441 is
what survives a broken collection, and comparing it to 480 would have compared a
number to a different question.
The fix was "use the index"; it should have been "use the index where that is the cheaper read". A probe is a btree descent plus a heap fetch plus two catcache lookups, which on a catalog of a few pages costs more than reading the whole thing. Measured, `compact()` over 40 groups with 20 retired: always probing costs 1000 buffers where reading whole costs 848, and 1122 where reading whole costs 8993. Both sizes occur in one installation, because the pgcolumnar catalogs are shared by every columnar table. Eight sites now route through pgcolumnar_scan_index_oid(), which asks the open relation how many pages it has. pgcolumnar.index_min_blocks is the page count at which the choice flips; its default of 3 is derived, not chosen -- every threshold from always-probe to never-probe, on PG 15, 17 and 19, over two fixture families, 24 size points. Scored against the cheapest threshold at each point, 3 costs 19 buffers in total where its nearest rival costs 95, and never more than 4 at any single point. The suites are rewritten to assert the WORK -- buffers out of pg_statio_all_tables -- and never the access path. The previous arms asserted `seq_scan = 0` and `idx_scan >= 1`, which failed 13 of 21 against this build: a guard that fires on correct code gets switched off. Every buffer count is compared against another measured in the same run, because the numbers differ by major (848 on PG17, 845 on PG15, 895 on PG19). Each phase compacts a control table at the same setting as the measured one and refuses to report on top of the drift; two earlier floors were both too low, and a full revert reddened 1 arm of 16 under the first and 2 of 18 under the second. It now reddens 5 of 5 claims, as does deleting the size check. 26 shell checks, 15 named port assertions, green on PG 15 through 19. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01XiFn3HteTXnGdRiA2xDP2n
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…1207) `pytest (cluster tests, PG 17)` went red on the first CI run of the rewritten suite, and the defect was in my fixture, not the code. `pgc_conn` gives every test a private SCHEMA -- isolation without an initdb per test, which is the right trade almost everywhere here. It is the wrong one for this file: the pgcolumnar catalogs are per DATABASE and shared by every test in the session, and every claim in this file is about how big those catalogs are. Run alone the file saw six catalog pages at phase 0 and P1 was worth 223 parts per thousand; run after the other fifty-one cluster files it saw thirty-nine pages and P1 was worth 65, under the floor. The arm was not wrong and the code was not wrong. The fixture's assumption was, and it held only in the arrangement I had run -- which is why CI found it and a local run of one file could not. The port now creates its own database. Both halves gain a premise counting the columnar relations in each phase, so a shared database arrives as a named failure rather than as a small margin. THAT PREMISE CAUGHT A SECOND DEFECT ON ITS FIRST RUN: a make_target loop left behind by the phase() refactor was creating a fourth phase-B table nothing used, and silently re-creating two that already existed. Removing it returns phase B's read-whole reading from 1964 to 1823 parts per thousand. The vacuum arm needed a bigger deep table once its fixture was corrected: in a database holding only its own tables, row_group sat below the threshold, so both readings read it whole and the arm reported 0. It now has a premise requiring row_group to exceed the setting, derived from SHOW rather than typed. 30 shell checks, 31 port checks, green on PG 15 through 19 and across the full 480-test cluster corpus. Three mutations redden five arms each. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01XiFn3HteTXnGdRiA2xDP2n
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Approving 39629395. The hold is cleared, and the thing that cleared it is not
the code change — it is that the arms now fail when the fix is removed, which
the earlier version's did not.
My previous review was COMMENTED against 186255e7, five heads stale. This is a
fresh read of this head; nothing is carried across.
Your three asks, in your order
1. The floor and the control placement — it holds, and the placement is the reason
The control's distance matches the claim's exposure, which is the whole question:
per phase: control (1) -> default (2) -> other (3)
noise = |control - default| / default spans 1 -> 2
claim = (other - default) / default spans 2 -> 3
Both span one compaction. A control placed last would span three and condemn
a claim exposed to one, which is exactly the 32-against-31 you hit. Adjacent, it
measures what the claim is exposed to.
And it is self-policing rather than asserted once:
check_num "premise: two phase $ph compactions at the same setting agree well inside the floor" \
"$(margin "$((FLOOR_PERMILLE - noise))" 1)" "1"If the drift ever climbs toward the floor, that premise fails instead of the
claims quietly passing on it. That is the arm I would have asked for.
One residual, not a blocker. The control spans interval 1→2 and the claim
spans 2→3. Those are both length one, but they are not the same interval, and
your own evidence says drift accumulates with position. So the control bounds
the claim's exposure only if drift-per-step is roughly flat. Your margins absorb
a lot of slack — the smallest claim is 237 against a floor of 100 and a measured
drift of 1 to 18 — so even a 2x underestimate leaves the conclusion intact. I
would not change anything; I would want the next person who tightens the floor
to know the control is a proxy for the adjacent interval rather than a bound on
the measured one.
2. Deleting the two arms was right, and rescuing them would have been worse
An arm worth 22 and 26 against a drift of 14 to 16 is not a weak arm, it is a
measurement of the sequence wearing a claim's name. Keeping it at a larger floor
would have meant asserting something the fixture cannot see; keeping it at a
smaller floor is what let a full revert through fifteen times. Deleting it and
preserving the claim as P1 — where it is worth 284 — keeps the property and
drops only the place it could not be measured. "What a fixture cannot measure,
this file does not assert" is the right rule and I would like it quoted at me
later.
3. The private database is justified by the thing it fixes
pgc_conn's per-schema isolation cannot work here, because the pgcolumnar
catalogs are per DATABASE and every claim is about how big they are. The failure
you record is the proof: six catalog pages alone, thirty-nine after fifty-one
other files, P1 falling from 223 to 65 and under the floor. The arm was right
and the fixture's assumption was wrong, which is the harder of the two to see.
Teardown is correct in both directions — DROP DATABASE IF EXISTS before the
create as well as in the finally, so a crashed prior run cannot poison the
next.
One latent hazard. The database name is request.node.name sanitised and
truncated to 40 characters. Today's two tests do not collide, measured. A
third test whose name shares the first 40 sanitised characters with one of them
would get the same database — and since the fixture does DROP DATABASE IF EXISTS first, under xdist (pinned in requirements-test.txt) one worker could
drop the database another is using. Cheap to close with a short hash suffix; not
a defect today.
What I verified independently
census, counted 1662 rows, 1530 never, 132 dated, 1530 + 132 == 1662
budget declares 1530, agrees
from main 1506 + 30 new - 6 newly dated == 1530
new suite 30 rows, 6 dated, 24 never -- ALL of them premises
zero non-premise arms never observed red
CI 15/15, mergeState CLEAN
That last line is the one that matters for a suite this size: every arm that
claims something has been seen to fail.
On the GUC, since I was the one objecting
I withdraw it. "A large value reproduces pre-fix behaviour exactly" — 848/1672/8993
against 848/1672/8993 at every point, with the always-probe endpoint inside a
five-rep jitter band — makes it a revert knob, and the documentation naming the
release a large value restores is what makes it usable as one. The test seam is a
second reason and you state it as one, which is the honest ordering.
Not merging
Approved, not merged. The human's word merges this.
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You asked me to disagree in public rather than privately conclude the floor is The deleted arms were not asserting a small effect. They were asserting a zero.Your justification is that "the default does less work than probing every
Your own decay curve says exactly this and I think it is the most informative So the two arms were not weak measurements of a real difference. They were Which answers the thing you are least sure aboutIf the arms had been faint-but-real, deleting them would have cost coverage and And the coverage at large catalogs is not missing: it is A1 and B1, which What I would change, and it is a commentNothing in the code. The sentence in Labelled: reasoned from the semantics plus your published numbers, not My approval at 🤖 Generated with Claude Code |
The two deleted arms were measuring something real, and it is still there@OffgridwithJD's reading of why they went is that the two configurations The conclusion is right and the reason is not. Measured on merged main Four of six catalogs are 7 to 56 pages here — far above the threshold — and the Because two of the six catalogs never outgrow the threshold at any size.
What that changesThe decay 284 -> 151 -> 31 is not convergence to zero. It is convergence to So deleting them did cost coverage, and it is worth writing down what is now The deletion was still right. The reason is the one in the file — the suite's And it says how to get the arm backThe measurement above separates cleanly at 20:1 because it alternates the Not proposing it for this change, which is merged. Recording it so the next |
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Retracting my convergence argument. It was wrong, and @jdatcmd measured it I claimed the two deleted arms were measuring a difference that had stopped Checked independently before accepting the correctionTheir point is that two of the six catalogs never outgrow the threshold at any
So the size check declines those two forever, probe-always pays for them Which reverses what I said about coverageI wrote that deleting the arms "costs nothing at all — there is no regression The deletion is still right, and @jdatcmd's original reason was the correct one What I take from itI reasoned from the threshold's semantics and their published decay curve, and Their alternating-position design is also the better instrument and worth 🤖 Generated with Claude Code |
Retiring a row group read five catalogs whole, once each per group, and the cost
grew with every unrelated columnar table in the database.
delete_group_rows()opens its catalog from aconst char *tableNameparameter, and
PgColumnarDeleteGroupMetadatacalls it five times. Onesystable_beginscanin the source was five sequential reads per retired group atrun time, and two more sit beside it on the compaction path. The
pgcolumnarmetadata catalogs are shared by every columnar table in the database, so each of
those reads was charged for every other table's rows.
Two audits missed it. Both attributed a scan to a catalog by the
open_columnar_table("<name>")that produced its relation handle, and a relationthat arrives as an argument has no name at the call site. What found it was a
reconciliation rather than a better reading: probing all 44
systable_beginscansites and requiring the number that ran without an index to equal the sum of
seq_scanover every catalog failed at 41 counted against 22 probed.Two corrections to the previous version of this description
It said nine sites. It is eight. 22
systable_beginscan(..., InvalidOid, false, ...)calls onmain, 14 after this change, and the diff shows eightconversions.
Its headline table counted scans, and scans are not work.
seq_scan 20 -> 0on six catalogs was the intent. That table is deleted rather than corrected,
because there is no correction: it was the wrong quantity, and reporting it as
the win is how this change came to claim a saving it had not measured.
The fix is not "use the index"
It is "use the index where that is the cheaper read". A probe is a btree descent
plus a heap fetch plus two catcache lookups, which on a catalog of a few pages is
more work than reading the whole thing. Both sizes occur in one installation,
because the catalogs are shared:
row_groupis one page in a database with onecolumnar table and 23 in one holding two million rows. A path that commits to
either method is wrong at one end of that range, and the previous version of this
PR was wrong at the small end by up to 18 per cent.
Eight sites now route through
pgcolumnar_scan_index_oid(), which asks the openrelation how many pages it has.
EXPLAIN (ANALYZE, BUFFERS)overpgcolumnar.compact(), 40 row groups with 20 retired:main)The threshold is derived, not chosen
pgcolumnar.index_min_blocksis the page count at which the choice flips. Everythreshold from always-probe to never-probe, on PG 15, 17 and 19, over two
families of fixture (many small columnar tables, catalogs 8 to 65 pages; one deep
table, 8 to 390) — 24 size points. Scored against the cheapest threshold at
each point:
main3 costs least overall by a factor of five and never more than 4 buffers at any
point. Its entire cost is one shape: a
zone_mapof exactly four pages, whichis worth reading whole and gets probed. The optimum is not the same for every
catalog —
row_grouppays for a probe at three pages,zone_mapnot untilfive, because the hot catalogs are read more often per retired group. One value
for all six is a priced compromise, not a truth, and the constant's own comment
says so.
The sweep's endpoints were checked against real builds
The sweep ran one instrumented build with the threshold settable. That is only
evidence if its endpoints reproduce the real thing, so they were measured against
actual builds of
mainand of the always-probe version, same protocol, threedatabase sizes:
mainThe 3 is the jitter band, not a difference: five reps read 1000, 1000, 1002, 1003,
1000 from the instrumented build and 1000 five times from the real one.
The first attempt at this control was confounded and I nearly published it. It
compacted six tables in sequence in one database, so free space released by the
earlier compactions cheapened the later ones and every pair "differed" by a
systematic 3 to 60 buffers. Re-run with the sweep's own drop-and-vacuum protocol,
two of the three pairs are identical at every point.
pgcolumnar.index_min_blocksships, and this is the part to attackIt is documented as an escape hatch rather than a tuning knob, because the table
above shows a very large value restores pre-fix behaviour exactly — 848,
1672 and 8993 against 848, 1672 and 8993 — not approximately. That is a real
operator action on a change that alters an access path on a maintenance path:
"this release made my compaction slower, put it back while I find out why."
It is also what lets the suites assert the work without a single typed constant,
and that is a second reason rather than the first. @OffgridwithJD's question was
"who sets this who is not a test", and the answer above is the honest one; the
repository already ships
pgcolumnar.enable_*settings in the same spirit.The tests: three rewrites, and the first two were nearly worthless
The blocker on this PR was that its arms asserted
seq_scan = 0andidx_scan >= 1— which path was taken — so they failed 13 of 21 against thebetter implementation, the same 13 a full revert reddens. A guard that fires on
correct code gets switched off.
Both suites now assert the work: buffers out of
pg_statio_all_tables, heapand index. Every count is compared against another count taken in the same run
from the same build, because the numbers differ by major — the same fixture reads
848 buffers on PG17, 845 on PG15 and 895 on PG19, so any typed constant is wrong
on two majors out of three.
Asserting the work was not enough. Two floors were tried and both let a
reverted fix through:
Compaction writes to
row_groupandfree_space, so the next compaction readsmore of them and two readings from identical code drift apart. Fifteen arms
passed against code with the fix removed, carried by 2 to 8 buffers of that.
What works: each phase compacts a control table at the same setting as the
measured one and refuses to report on top of the drift, and the control sits
adjacent to the default, because drift accumulates with distance — placed three
steps away it reported 32 parts per thousand against a margin of 31 and
disqualified an arm exposed to one step of it. Two arms were then deleted
rather than rescued: at the sizes they ran at they were worth 22 and 26 against
a drift of 14 to 16. One survives at a catalog size where it is worth 284.
Measured, in parts per thousand:
P1 passing against a default that never probes is the correct verdict: at six
catalog pages declining every probe is the cheaper read. That build is wrong
at the other end, and four arms say so.
The vacuum arm has no positional confound at all, because a
VACUUMisrepeatable where a compaction is not: all three readings come from one table and
only the setting differs.
Verified
harness_selftest1164/1164, pytest guard half 403/403 (1121 checks)shellcheck -S errorclean,docs_style.sh55/55orphan-scan 0, rename-scan 0 appeared / 0 vanished
cluster_tests480, by collection: cleanmaincollects 478 over 51files, this tree 480 over 52. The first attempt read 480 for
maintoo,because
git checkout origin/main -- .restores the files main has and doesnot remove the ones it does not — the new test file was still there. Agreeing
with main's own committed 478 is how the corrected measurement was recognised.
suites_not_coveredunchanged: a newly registered suite arriving with ledgerrows raises registered and covered by one each.
Rebased
On
1bcfb92b, replacing @OffgridwithJD's published rebase onto54acb19b.Nothing of it is lost: that rebase touches 10 files, this branch touches the same
10 plus three more for the setting, and no file it changes is one this branch
does not. Its census re-derivation is superseded by one done on the newer base,
which reached the same
cluster_testsfigure from a different direction.Not in this change
The six
storagesites:storage.relation_oidis stale afterALTER COLUMN TYPE(#1211), so indexing it would make a wrong answer arrivefaster. #1198's seven planning sites, which want the same treatment and their own
measurement. Caching the index Oid (#1217), which needs invalidation and would
move this threshold down.
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